December 13, 2007

The Mitchell Report

Today, the long awaited Mitchell Report on Steroids in Baseball was released. So naturally, I decided to not work and followed the news all day on ESPN.com, SI.com Deadspin, The Yankee Lohud Blog, various message boards, and WFAN. I also talked to Brett about all the proceedings, because I didn't have access to a TV and he did.

Brett (10:25:25 AM): DOWN GOES CLEMENS!

Jason (10:25:08 AM): haha i know

Jason (10:25:17 AM): he was the most obvious big name

Brett (10:26:00 AM): i thought for sure selig would protect him

Jason (10:26:00 AM): i knew he'd get named

Jason (10:26:07 AM): the yanks are apparently in for a bad day

Brett (10:26:51 AM): thats the rumor

Brett (10:27:02 AM): the spin is gonna be out of control

Jason (10:26:34 AM): i'm guessing andy's in there too unfortunately

Brett (10:27:11 AM): the report will be torn to shreds by 5pm

Brett (10:27:22 AM): its credibilty will be questioned

Brett (10:27:31 AM): by the big names

Brett (10:27:33 AM): including clemens

Jason (10:27:15 AM): if there are no prominent red sox then i'd think the report has no teeth

Jason (10:27:24 AM): although u could argue that clemens is a prominent red sox

Brett (10:28:21 AM): pettite is def in there

Jason (10:27:55 AM): yeah i'm expecting andy

Brett (10:28:46 AM): sheffield

Brett (10:29:18 AM): RIVERA?!

Jason (10:28:54 AM): i read somewhere that jeter and mo are safe

Brett (10:29:37 AM): breakeing news - espn

Brett (10:29:53 AM): mitchell report to be officially released at 2pm - Clemens is confirmed,

Brett (10:30:04 AM): clemens is named by his longtime personal trainer

Brett (10:30:37 AM): and clemens also had a 2nd source

Jason (10:30:32 AM): clemens was obvious

Jason (10:30:51 AM): russo and francesa said that one name made their jaws drop yesterday

Brett (10:33:33 AM): jeter

Brett (10:33:37 AM): goodnite derek

Brett (10:33:45 AM): its either jeter or mariano

Jason (10:33:34 AM): that would be crushing, but i dont think either of them are

Brett (10:34:33 AM): ya know who's absolutely loving the mitchell repeort right now....

Brett (10:35:25 AM): bobby petrino

Jason (10:35:16 AM): oh yeah

Brett (10:39:39 AM): buster olney just said hes not voting for roger for HOF

Jason (10:39:26 AM): figures

Brett (10:41:44 AM): i cant wait to hear what Hank 2 says

Brett (10:41:48 AM): or rather Boss 2

Jason (10:41:36 AM): yeah

Jason (10:41:42 AM): he's great, he has something to say about everything

Jason (10:48:04 AM): i'm surprised no other names leaked

Brett (10:50:42 AM): clemens is the appetizer

Brett (10:51:06 AM): brb

Jason (10:50:41 AM): he's a pretty big appetizer

Brett (10:51:25 AM): well i mean the appetizer to hold us off until 2

Brett (10:51:34 AM): when they feed us the rest of our meal

Jason (10:51:06 AM): true

Jason (10:51:13 AM): this'll have people talking till then

Brett (10:51:49 AM): hes a shrimp cocktail

Brett (10:52:11 AM): brb

Brett (11:00:17 AM): PETTITE just got named

Jason (10:59:53 AM): really?

Brett (11:00:30 AM): yup, they just broke it

Brett (11:00:32 AM): espnews

Brett (11:00:39 AM): he came from clemens trainere

Jason (11:00:10 AM): ugh that sucks

Jason (11:00:13 AM): i expected that though

Brett (11:00:54 AM): u shoudlve expected that

Brett (11:00:59 AM): i bet rivera is in there too

Jason (11:00:41 AM): that really would be devastating

Brett (11:01:24 AM): who else was tight with clemens

Brett (11:47:32 AM): Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth

Brett (11:47:55 AM): Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi,
Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.

Jason (11:47:26 AM): is that confirmed?

Brett (11:49:09 AM): no

Brett (11:49:13 AM): a rumored leaked list

Jason (11:49:39 AM): a lot of those names make sense

Jason (11:49:50 AM): wow pujols

Brett (11:50:30 AM): Pujols would be AWESOME!

Jason (11:50:53 AM): that would be gigantic

Jason (11:50:55 AM): VARITEK!

Brett (11:51:38 AM): Clemens > Varitek

Brett (11:51:42 AM): i love seeing nomar on there

Jason (11:51:11 AM): clemens > varitek

Jason (11:51:19 AM): clemens > everyone

Brett (11:52:06 AM): Pujols would be great to see on there

Brett (11:52:12 AM): id love to see ehim tumble

Jason (11:52:06 AM): that'd be pretty incredible

Brett (11:54:46 AM): r u listening to mike and mad dog

Brett (11:55:02 AM): they must be goin nuts

Jason (11:54:47 AM): no i'm gonna tune into them now

Brett (11:56:07 AM): marien jones is banned from attending the summer olypmics, even as a spectator

Jason (11:56:05 AM): http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html

Jason (11:56:15 AM): news sites are starting to report on the list

Jason (11:56:39 AM): http://www.cnbc.com/id/22243678\

Brett (11:58:26 AM): awesome

Jason (11:58:47 AM): dog and francesa go on the air at 1

Brett (12:01:24 PM): oh yea

Brett (12:04:57 PM): gammons is already doubting the credibility

Jason (12:04:29 PM): of course he is

Jason (12:04:34 PM): his boyfriend jason varitek just got named

Brett (12:05:09 PM): "this isnt saying they failed a test, it just means they may have been associated with steroids"

Jason (12:07:23 PM): at least jeter and mo aren't on it

Jason (12:07:31 PM): sucks about andy though

Brett (12:08:44 PM): will that really change the way yanks fans look at him though?

Brett (12:08:53 PM): is he gonna suddenly get booed or something?

Jason (12:09:55 PM): oh no, i love pettitte

Jason (12:10:20 PM): i bet he gets a standing ovation when he takes the mound next year

Brett (12:10:58 PM): of course

Jason (12:10:33 PM): i bet red sox fans do the same for varitek

Brett (12:11:13 PM): he'll deny it, and he'll have the yankees machine behind him, and it will be like it never happened

Jason (12:10:47 PM): definitely

Jason (12:11:06 PM): hank will come out in total support for andy

Brett (12:11:56 PM): "we believe in andy, and the weay he does and always has conducted himself"

Brett (12:12:00 PM): blah blah blah something like that

Jason (12:11:33 PM): oh yeah

Brett (12:15:37 PM): YouTube - Loop attack

Jason (12:15:50 PM): hahahahaha

Brett (12:18:06 PM): i want to do that to someone

Jason (12:17:40 PM): that looks fun

Brett (1:33:45 PM): any new names

Jason (1:33:39 PM): jon heyman from SI.com says chuck knoblauch

Jason (1:33:49 PM): david justice

Brett (1:34:33 PM): neither are surprises

Jason (1:34:30 PM): the suspense is killing me

Jason (1:40:32 PM): mike francesa says the full report is being released at 1:45 for the media, then mitchell goes on at 2

Jason (1:41:30 PM): dog says it's hard to be a fan and be impartial, and says he's not gonna stop being a fan

Brett (1:44:37 PM): 1 minute away

Brett (1:44:41 PM): START THE COUNTDOWN!

Jason (1:44:34 PM): what a moment in sports

Jason (1:44:44 PM): this is like baseball meets new years meets christmas

Jason (1:49:11 PM): dog and francesa hasn't gotten the list yet

Brett (1:50:45 PM): i think we're just excited

Jason (1:50:30 PM): mitchell is gonna release it at the last second so no one will have hard questions ready

Jason (1:50:39 PM): about specific players

Brett (1:55:01 PM): cossack is already destroying this

Brett (1:55:10 PM): "what if clemens says "prove it"

Jason (1:54:43 PM): thats exactly whats gonna happen

Jason (1:54:57 PM): i wonder if roger cossack gets overtime

Brett (1:55:34 PM): JEREMY SHAPP

Brett (1:55:36 PM): HAS IT IN HAND

Jason (1:55:06 PM): YES!

Brett (1:55:46 PM): hes reading an excert about clemens

Brett (1:56:03 PM): YES

Brett (1:56:19 PM): YES CLEMENS WAS INJECTED WITH WINSTROL THROUGHOUT THE 98-99 SEASON

Jason (1:55:52 PM): wow

Brett (1:56:48 PM): loduca

Brett (1:56:59 PM): this is aweesome

Jason (1:56:26 PM): not too surprising

Brett (1:57:16 PM): shapp has the report , which has photographs of checks written by players for steroids

Jason (1:56:50 PM): WOW

Brett (1:57:29 PM): karl ravech is already putting the disclaimer on it

Jason (1:57:02 PM): karl ravech would

Brett (1:57:39 PM): "just because a player is named, it does not mean they used steroids"

Brett (1:57:47 PM): fernando vina

Jason (1:57:24 PM): dog and francesa are going through the names

Jason (1:57:59 PM): todd hundley

Jason (1:58:06 PM): matt franco

Jason (1:58:21 PM): dog yelled "WOW" when francesa said "roger clemens"

Brett (1:59:07 PM): lol "wow"

Jason (1:58:34 PM): he's the best

Brett (1:59:24 PM): it will be available shortly on MLB.com in it's entirety

Brett (2:00:26 PM): its up there now

Brett (2:00:29 PM): lol, with a giant graphic

Brett (2:00:33 PM): it looks like ewwe.com

Brett (2:00:39 PM): theres a big dramatic image of george mitchell

Jason (2:00:28 PM): what a douche mitchell is, he released the report at the last second before anyone could process it

Brett (2:01:31 PM): well

Brett (2:01:42 PM): its good damage control

Jason (2:01:18 PM): it is

Brett (2:02:59 PM): i wonder if selig will field questions during his press conference

Jason (2:02:28 PM): the PDF is on MLB.com

Brett (2:03:06 PM): or if he'll just make a statemet and take off

Brett (2:03:09 PM): yup 409 pages

Brett (2:08:09 PM): "I sent a memorandum to every active player in Major League Baseball encouraging each player to contact me or my staff if he had any relevant information. The MLBPA sent out a companion memo that effectively discourage players from cooperating. Not one player contact me in response to my memo.

Brett (2:12:43 PM): are eu reading it

Jason (2:12:18 PM): i'm scrolling through it looking at the names

Brett (2:13:05 PM): im reading it, on page 29

Brett (2:35:39 PM): this is shitty

Brett (2:35:47 PM): no varitek

Jason (2:35:12 PM): i know, disappointing

Jason (2:35:28 PM): no brady anderson or brett boone

Jason (2:36:32 PM): mitchell talked to like 3 trainers who were willing to give info

Brett (2:39:38 PM): all this report really did was expose clemens

Brett (2:39:54 PM): everything else verified what we already knew

Jason (2:39:27 PM): yeah i know

Jason (2:39:48 PM): even then it just confirmed clemens, most people suspected him

Jason (2:39:58 PM): and tejada

Brett (2:43:15 PM): i wonder if MLB did some editing since they got the report on tuesday

Jason (2:42:55 PM): francesa says "this report didn't rock baseball, it rocked the clemens and pettitte households"

Brett (2:43:46 PM): exactly

Jason (2:43:45 PM): and even then they had to know

Jason (2:43:52 PM): i'm disappointed in george mitchell

Brett (2:45:01 PM): im dissapointed in Allen H. Bud Selig

Jason (2:44:47 PM): bud is gonna spin this as a major breakthrough

Brett (2:46:05 PM): i dont even understand what mitchell is recommending

Jason (2:47:19 PM): george mitchell is allen h.'s lapdog

Brett (2:47:59 PM): oh shit

Brett (2:48:08 PM): did u hear this last question to mitchell

Jason (2:47:49 PM): no my feed got cut off

Jason (2:47:53 PM): he sounds stern right now though

Brett (2:48:57 PM): the dude basically said "outside of the mcnamee interview citing clemens and petetite, it seems like you didnt report anything new outside of what was already previously reported"

Jason (2:48:46 PM): exactly

Brett (2:53:57 PM): clemens took it in the ass

Brett (2:54:22 PM): "injected in the buttocks multiple times by mcnamee"

Brett (2:54:23 PM): OH SHIT

Brett (2:54:25 PM): pettite

Jason (2:53:55 PM): what's happening?

Brett (2:54:40 PM): pettite repeatedly called during his rehab from elbow surgery asking for HGH

Brett (2:54:51 PM): asking how he "can speed up the recovery process"

Brett (2:54:56 PM): what a cocksucker

Jason (2:54:23 PM): yeah i dont think thats a big deal

Brett (2:55:02 PM): sure it

Brett (2:55:05 PM): sure is

Brett (2:55:09 PM): he asked for HH

Brett (2:55:11 PM): HGH

Jason (2:54:51 PM): he wanted to help his team by recovering faster

Jason (2:55:02 PM): it's cheating but whatever, he's not the only one who's done it

Brett (2:56:12 PM): fuckin yankees fan

Jason (2:56:19 PM): i still support andy pettitte

Brett (2:57:09 PM): i love this, espns fernando vina was named

Brett (2:57:19 PM): i wonder if Vina will quit to avoid being roasted

Brett (2:57:29 PM): he'll prolly do an emotional tell-all

Brett (2:58:10 PM): i bet they are saving Vina for the 6pm sportscenter

Jason (2:57:43 PM): maybe tim kurkijan will let him cry on his shoulder

Brett (3:00:33 PM): The report says Pettitte, from April 21 to June 14, 2002 when he was on the disabled list with elbow tendonitis, he "wanted to speed his recovery and help his team." The report says "McNamee traveled to Tampa at Pettitte's request and spent about 10 days assisting Pettitte with his rehabilitation. McNamee recalled that he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone that McNamee obtained from Radomski on two to four occasions. Pettitte paid McNamee for the trip and his expenses; there was no separate payment for the human growth hormone."

Jason (3:00:47 PM): yeah

Brett (3:01:29 PM): After the 2001 season, Pettitte, like Clemens, continued to use McNamee's services and to serve as a source of income after McNamee was dismissed by the Yankees. In a 2006 article, Pettitte 'acknowledged an ongoing relationship' with McNamee. Pettitte was quoted as having said that he still talked to McNamee about once a week.

Jason (3:00:56 PM): this is the roger clemens and andy pettitte report

Brett (3:01:39 PM): dude pettite is a scumbag

Brett (3:01:44 PM): that whole image he has is bullshit

Brett (3:01:54 PM): the yankees cheated to win the world series

Brett (3:01:57 PM): in 2000

Brett (3:01:59 PM): yo

Brett (3:02:00 PM): do you realize

Brett (3:02:15 PM): clemens legit had roid rage when he piazza in the head, and when he threw the bat at him

Jason (3:01:48 PM): yeah, obviously

Brett (3:02:40 PM): he started juicing again mid season 2000

Jason (3:02:12 PM): clemens was a lunatic that year

Brett (3:03:05 PM): he really was

Jason (3:02:28 PM): dog says this keeps clemens out of the hall of fame

Jason (3:02:36 PM): he says this just embarasses pettitte

Brett (3:03:26 PM): well wasnt pettite headed to the hall anyways

Brett (3:03:34 PM): based on yankee propaganda and his impeccable image

Brett (3:03:47 PM): im not saying i thought he desereved it, but it seems like he was gonna ride the yankee train in

Jason (3:03:31 PM): i dont think so, maybe if he didn't go to houston

Jason (3:04:03 PM): if he didn't he'd probably own a couple of yankee pitching records

Brett (3:04:41 PM): this will be the ultimate test for clemens bulletproof image

Brett (3:04:54 PM): can he survive this or not

Jason (3:04:18 PM): i wonder how suzyn waldman is taking this news

Jason (3:04:27 PM): i hope suzyn is alright

Brett (3:05:06 PM): OH MY GAWD, THE MITCHELL REPAWT IS BIASED

Brett (3:05:14 PM): shes gotta be freakin out

Jason (3:04:47 PM): MY GAWD, GEORGE MITCHELL HAS JUST THROWN ROGER UNDER THE BUS!

Brett (3:05:32 PM): peter gammons is excited again

Brett (3:05:40 PM): its now a "good thing for everyone"

Brett (3:05:46 PM): now that varitek is clear

Jason (3:05:24 PM): of course gammons is, his husband jason varitek was nowhere to be found

Jason (3:05:37 PM): gammons needs to retire

Brett (3:06:22 PM): "senator mitchell did a tremendous job in the way he presented this report"

Brett (3:06:24 PM): wtf

Brett (3:06:34 PM): 2 hours ago he was protesting it

Jason (3:06:32 PM): he's ridiculous

Jason (3:06:44 PM): where's olney and kurkjian

Brett (3:09:05 PM): i like how roger cossack is seated with the white house in the backdrop behind him

Jason (3:08:47 PM): roger cossack has really become an ESPN institution this year

Brett (3:09:32 PM): is that suppoeed to make him the authority or something

Jason (3:09:29 PM): oh yeah, roger cossack is the authority on all legal issues facing this country

Brett (3:10:33 PM): i think thats a green screen

Brett (3:10:47 PM): cuz thers no office buildings thats close to the white house

Jason (3:10:14 PM): are we gonna hear from donald fehr today?

Brett (3:11:34 PM): i think mlbpa is declining to speak today

Jason (3:12:07 PM): dog says MLBPA is going up after selig

Brett (3:12:52 PM): eh

Jason (3:12:20 PM): dog says the report has no juice

Brett (3:13:00 PM): they are all oging to say the same shit

Brett (3:13:04 PM): it does have no juice

Brett (3:13:10 PM): it took down clemens, end of discussion

Jason (3:12:41 PM): hahaha he just said "if you wanted to say WOW WOW WOW! you're disappointed"

Brett (3:13:27 PM): its like any other "AP REPORT" that says so and so received a shipment of steroids

Brett (3:13:43 PM): if they didnt ahve clemens, it would be a massive failure

Jason (3:13:22 PM): i think it is a massive failure

Brett (3:14:10 PM): eh, its still a big win for me and ny mets fans

Jason (3:14:17 PM): yeah aside from todd hundley

Brett (3:15:23 PM): please

Brett (3:15:26 PM): he is so far removed

Brett (3:15:30 PM): most people dont evenn remember hundley

Jason (3:15:13 PM): i do, but whatever

Jason (3:15:41 PM): i hope andy stays on the juice and wins 20 games next year

Brett (3:16:44 PM): that would be a great fuck u

Jason (3:19:26 PM): hank steinbrenner should hold a press conference

Brett (3:22:33 PM): he really should

Brett (3:22:38 PM): he could seize the headlines

Brett (3:22:47 PM): if he came out with some fireworks, i bet he could trump mitchell

Jason (3:22:37 PM): hank should come out with andy pettitte and express his support

Brett (3:23:23 PM): that would be some scene

Brett (3:23:34 PM): i really wish we were in season right now so we could hear from suzyn

Jason (3:23:22 PM): i wonder where she hides during the winter

Brett (3:24:38 PM): tampa

Brett (3:24:40 PM): gotta be

Brett (3:24:57 PM): wait wait... pettite was buying steroids from radomski, and having them injected by mcnamee!

Brett (3:24:58 PM): this is great

Brett (3:25:18 PM): this radomski guy is quite the player

Jason (3:25:21 PM): radomski threw everyone under the bus

Jason (3:25:27 PM): what a rat

Jason (3:29:36 PM): where does it say pettitte was buying roids from radomski?

Brett (3:30:51 PM): espn

Jason (3:32:45 PM): francesa is talking about how there's no paper trail traced to clemens

Jason (3:32:56 PM): clemens can just call him a liar

Jason (3:32:59 PM): and he probably will

Brett (3:33:39 PM): of course

Brett (3:33:49 PM): these guys are all going to be fine

Brett (3:33:54 PM): clemens will be slightly tarnished

Brett (3:33:56 PM): same with pettite

Brett (3:34:00 PM): but its not gonna change etheir lives

Jason (3:33:39 PM): oh yeah

Brett (3:34:30 PM): bonds is the face of it

Brett (3:34:34 PM): hes the heel

Jason (3:33:59 PM): russo just said "clemens took four shots in the fanny"

Brett (3:34:38 PM): LOL

Jason (3:34:02 PM): he's on fire right now

Brett (3:34:57 PM): lol ive gotta find a live feed

Jason (3:34:41 PM): http://www.wfan.com/

Brett (3:35:49 PM): that photo of steve somers is troubling

Brett (3:36:09 PM): r they at commercial?

Brett (3:36:16 PM): its not working for me

Jason (3:36:08 PM): yeah they're at commercial

Brett (3:36:51 PM): ah here we go

Brett (3:37:15 PM): "4 shots in the fanny" is the greatest quote ive ever heard

Jason (3:36:55 PM): he's really on his A game today

Brett (3:37:42 PM): so francessa is in damage control i take it

Jason (3:37:45 PM): oh yeah, he basically just outlined the roger clemens defense

Brett (3:38:34 PM): and mad dog is riling people up

Jason (3:38:00 PM): there's no paper trail whatsoever, clemens can just deny it and call the guy a liar

Brett (3:39:37 PM): hundleys home run record was broken

Brett (3:39:44 PM): by javy lopez

Brett (3:39:51 PM): javy lopez escaped btw

Jason (3:40:23 PM): yeah, a lot of guys just dodged a bullet

Jason (3:41:01 PM): i can't believe brady anderson wasn't named

Brett (3:41:45 PM): YES

Brett (3:41:46 PM): !

Brett (3:41:54 PM): "PIAZZA GETS THE LAST LAUGH" says the caller

Jason (3:42:18 PM): yeah piazza dodged a bullet too, i was convinced he was gonna be on the list

Brett (3:43:02 PM): no way

Brett (3:43:06 PM): piazza was always a big dude

Brett (3:43:11 PM): he was never overly muscular

Jason (3:45:25 PM): maybe, we'll never know because george mitchell didn't do his job




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